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marco
 IP: 71.225.57.182 Nov 2, 06 - 10:02 PM |
sugarhouse casino
why have they started escavating on the Sugarhouse Casino project if they dont know who is recieving the gaming permits yet? Seems to me someone knows more then meets the eye.Any info? |
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slot player
IP: 65.78.36.17 Nov 3rd, 2006 - 8:33 AM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
im ready for slots!!!! |
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grassy knoll
IP: 75.198.88.23 Dec 21st, 2006 - 6:52 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
for all of you conspiracy theorists out there, i thought i would pull up this old posting by marco back in early november. coincidence? you decide... |
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JM
IP: 128.91.136.54 May 8th, 2007 - 12:45 PM |
Sugarhouse Distributes Brochures
Claiming to put more cops on the streets. |
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enji
IP: 192.91.147.35 May 8th, 2007 - 2:08 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
I didnt think they started...what makes ya say that? I did see a large peice of equipment on the lot...but its been there for a couple of weeks, idled. |
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DDR
IP: 67.100.130.243 May 8th, 2007 - 2:17 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
Those Sugarhouse signs on Del.Ave went up way before the official "announcement" was made regarding where the casinos were to be located. This deal was signed, sealed and delivered by the state years ago. It doesn't matter to me whether you are for or against the casinos but the whole process of getting them approved was a joke. The folks in Queen Village are having the same discussion regarding Foxwoods as well. |
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tommie
IP: 64.190.35.194 May 8th, 2007 - 4:00 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
I received the postcard from sugarhouse seeking support for the casinos yesterday and I sent them this email: Dear dingbats, So yesterday I received a mailing from you seeking my support for your proposed casino about 1500 feet from my house. Why do you need my support, you won. You defeated the democratic process(must make you proud to be an American right?) our supreme court in PA sided with you and your money ,why do you care if I support you? mind-boggling. All we the residents of Philadelphia wanted was a say in what comes to our neighborhoods, 27,000 Philadelphians signed a petition seeking a ballot question too limit where you can put your casino. We have all but given up on stopping the casinos from coming , now all we want is a say in where they go and even that is not good enough for you. The funniest thing about the postcard is how you will pay for more police on the streets I think the number was around 1000 and how you will give the school system 50 million dollars over the next ten years. First of all we will need the additional police to handle all the vice that will surely follow you into my neighborhood. I imagine new business following you such as strip clubs and pawn shops with neon signs declaring "WE BUY GOLD". So all the really great things that have happened in my neighborhood over the last ten years will be erased by your presence. As far as the 50 million for our schools that works out to 5 million a year and if the other company planning a casino in philly is any indication of the type of people that work in your industry I don't believe for one second you will make good on that promise. Foxwoods is listed as the number 6 most tax deliquent business in philadelphia and they have not even broken ground yet! With regard to the 6000 jobs you will create I believe that at least three quarters of those will be waiters and waitresses, janitors, parking attendants, cashiers, and other low level retail type positions and any truly high paying positions will be fill by the suits from corporate and not the working class people that make up most of my neighbors. I will return the postcard asking for my support with an additional box titled "GO AWAY". Please reconsider coming to my neighborhood. Please take a business trip to Atlantic City and tour the neighborhoods just off the boardwalk take a good look around 30 years ago Atlantic City was promised a brighter future because of casinos and we all see how that turned out please do not bring that to Philadelphia. Remember "GO AWAY!!" Thomas Hillman I am not opposed to casinos in philly I just dont want them in backyard. In fact why not put them on that big empty lot under the Walt Whitman bridge- close to the stadiums and strip clubs and nowhere near any residential areas. Just my two cents. cheers |
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IP: 70.20.141.129 May 8th, 2007 - 6:51 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
clap clap clap |
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CC
IP: 148.177.1.210 May 9th, 2007 - 11:34 AM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
Right... like they're going to even read that. 
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Reader
IP: 64.115.33.118 May 9th, 2007 - 12:57 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
No better way to make sure your letter won't get read than to open with "Dear Dingbats". It probably hit the circular file right then and there. No wonder they don't take the opposition seriously. |
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northern libertarian
IP: 69.249.119.129 May 9th, 2007 - 1:16 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
what the hell is wrong with waiters, and janitors? are you implying that those jobs are sub standard? that happens to be many people's expert-ice, and you want to deny people the opportunity to use it? (not to mention im sure that the casinos will offer benefits) and why? because of some arbitrary fear based argument . does anyone here have a crystal ball? that you are so sure that a casino is going to destroy the neighborhood. ive got a solution for you: dont go to the casino, and if enough people do the same, the casino will go out of business |
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pissed
IP: 67.62.180.106 May 9th, 2007 - 2:31 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
tommie's a better man than me. my first instinct was to scrawl "**** you" across their postcard i got in the mail and send it back |
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Cheesesteak the atypically asinine Impaler
IP: 151.199.230.123 May 9th, 2007 - 2:46 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
Northern Libertarian, Point to slots casino that has had a positive impact on the immediate community surrounding it, and you may convince some people. As precedent stands, there is a lot of evidence that points to casinos, particularly slot parlors, as detrimental to the community in which they are situated. It's not a crystal ball, but the people you're yelling at have more precedent than the pro-casino side has been able to offer. Any casino size structure anywhere in the city would have a similar if not greater, since slot parlors are low overhead low maintenance affairs generally, demand for those with custodial and service expertise ... i dunno what expert-ice is, I think that's something for the Rita's threads. |
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DDR
IP: 67.100.130.65 May 9th, 2007 - 3:06 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
I wish the "put your money where your mouth is and don't patronize the casinos" model would work in this case, but it doesn't seem likely. This type of business is not usually sustained by those living near it. I don't think the majority of the people gambling in Atlantic City are residential neighbors of the casinos. |
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3rd&Brown
IP: 209.64.25.3 May 9th, 2007 - 3:06 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
There are a lot of people in this city struggling to find jobs that pay a living wage. This casino would provide 1000s of them. Further, as far as I know, no ghetto has cropped up around Delaware Park in Newark DE after slots were installed. Ditto for Philadelphia Park in Bensalem. |
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Cheesesteak the atypically asinine Impaler
IP: 151.199.230.123 May 9th, 2007 - 3:44 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
Thousands of jobs for a facility that is mostly automated? Bull. Thousands of jobs doing what? You don't need dealers. Security (which I'm guessing will be low grade like most of the "security professionals" in Philly), maintenance (but not much, this is Philly and things are always done on the cheap) and some food/bar servers. Nothing wrong with those fields, but the 1,000s figure doesn't seem right, and I think people in those fields would be better off working at a different facility from what I've read on working at a Casino. Casino's aren't "job builders" for living wages. Maybe a short spurt of construction activity, and maybe a couple of shifts at a WaWa nearby, but these facilities on the margins do not reinvent the areas they are in. Bensalem's too early in the game to merit, don't know about Delaware, but I imagine the community has to deal with more traffic ... and not in the happy foot business patronly way ... but the we have to rebuild all the 95 off ramps way. While I know a lot of people are saying it, I'm not saying the casinos are going to make the community a ghetto. However I'm also saying they will be a problem for the community, and whatever the benefits the city and state may reap from them will likely not be returned to the immediate area in any way that'd balance out the difficulties of having them where they are. |
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DDR
IP: 67.100.130.65 May 9th, 2007 - 4:06 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
I think what many of us are trying to say is it would be better to have more of a buffer zone between the casinos and existing neigborhoods, pure and simple. I don't think my life personally is going to be that heavily impacted, but I know people that have homes much closer to Del. Ave that most likely will be. Not just Fishtown either, check out how close Foxwoods is going to be to homes. |
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Kent
IP: 192.35.35.34 May 9th, 2007 - 4:33 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
I think Foxwoods will have a more negative impact than Sugarhouse. I don't believe anyone who has driven on Columbus Blvd. on a Saturday afternoon could possibly think that putting a casino near Home Depot is a good idea. Fortunately I live far enough away I can pretty much never drive on Columbus Blvd again once the casino opens and sacrifice shopping at Lowe's and Ikea, but I sympathize with the people in that area. |
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Lando
IP: 12.111.212.179 May 9th, 2007 - 5:15 PM |
Re: sugarhouse casino
They should try and make a casino in the sky like my Cloud City. It would be out of sight, out of mind. Every scoundrel in the galaxy would avoid NL and I would be RICH RICH RICH. Quincy Jones ain't the only black man in the gambling business. |
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