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Janice Sanford
 IP: 64.12.116.8 Sep 8, 07 - 11:18 PM |
Being Blind didn't make Terri a Vegetable
Dr. Ron Cranford, a Minneapolis neurologist, examined Schiavo after an appellate court in 2001 ordered additional medical review. He said she was not able to follow movement with her eyes. "Terri doesn't do any of that. She has no sustained visual pursuit. And that's the hallmark of the vegetative state," he said by telephone on Monday. In fact, Cranford said, Schiavo's inability to follow objects or people with her eyes was one of the main reasons he concluded that she is in a persistent vegetative state. He testified so in court. "This diagnosis is so straightforward in her case," Cranford said. http://www.sptimes.com/2003/10/28/Tampabay/Understanding_Terri_S.shtml "So life expectancy at five to 10 years means I can be worth $5 to $20 million in these cases." -Ronald Cranford http://www.mmaonline.net/publications/MNMed2005/June/Pulse3.html Interesting that the late Ronald Cranford made millions diganosising human's as vegetables but wasn't smart enough to know that Terri [if the autopsy is right] was blind at the time he examined her. |
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james
IP: 172.162.144.29 Sep 8th, 2007 - 11:48 PM |
Re: Being Blind didn't make Terri a Vegetable
Dr. Cranford did testify that Terri was blind. He then contradicted himself stating that he made comments that Terri could clearly see and track the balloon. Dr. Cranford tried to say he was pretending to do that and trying to say that communicating with Terri like she could see. Terri was blind or at least partially blind. It was confirmed that at the time of he death Terri was blind. However, some medical professional have stated you can't make that analysis on dead person. Based on witness testimonies, it pretty clear Terri could see to some degree. The problem with vision made it more difficult to express herself. Vegetative patients are often misdiagnosised as PVS because they have severe vision problems. For that reason, they can't express themselves in an ordinary fashion. A doctor may conclude a diagnosis of PVS on this point. |
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Janice Sanford
IP: 64.12.116.8 Sep 9th, 2007 - 12:21 AM |
Re: Re: Being Blind didn't make Terri a Vegetable
Accurate diagnosis is possible but requires the skills of a multidisciplinary team experienced in the management of people with complex disabilities. http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/313/7048/13 Cranford saw Terri less than an hr and diagnosed her PVS. |
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Walter In FL
IP: 70.127.118.160 Sep 9th, 2007 - 12:46 PM |
Re: Re: Re: Being Blind didn't make Terri a Vegetable
Janice I will not challenge any doctors, I'm not trained and experanced in the medical profession. I will leave the challenges to their peers, other doctor. I must have trust for doctors for the odds are in my favor that "THAT" doctor can and will help me if needed. |
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Janice Sanford
IP: 64.12.116.8 Sep 15th, 2007 - 1:32 PM |
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Are you saying that in your opinion the Schindler doctors opinions hold the same weight as Greer's and Michael Schiavo's doctors? |
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Walter in FL
IP: 70.127.118.160 Sep 16th, 2007 - 9:09 AM |
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In 2003 during the GAL investigation, Judge Greer found that the Schindlers doctors' testimony and evidence of their treatment methods showed they had no history of them sucessfully treating a patient in Terri's condition. A great many noted medical professionals filed briefs concuring to the fact. The Schindlers doctors just did not have the professional respect of their peers. |
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Janice Sanford
IP: 205.188.116.8 Sep 16th, 2007 - 9:35 AM |
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“I appreciate Dr. Wolfson’s time and effort in this endeavor. I also respect the tremendous challenge of preparing an accurate, independent and thorough review of nearly 10 years of information in only 30 days. That Dr. Wolfson recognizes the continued need for an independent third party Guardian Ad Litem is encouraging, as is his recommendation that Mrs. Schiavo undergo swallowing tests and therapy. Based on this third party analysis, I am hopeful that Mr. Schiavo and his attorney will no longer prevent this vital testing from taking place. This would be a first step in the fresh, clean-hands start that Dr. Wolfson recommended at the end of his report. “Taken as a whole, however, I am concerned that too many open questions still remain. Chief among them is the issue of Mrs. Schiavo’s wishes, and whether or not there is clear and convincing evidence as to what those wishes were. The current court proceedings have not addressed this issue, or her current guardian’s conflicts of interest, nor have I been given the opportunity to develop evidence, or test the accuracy of Mr. Schiavo’s assertions on this matter. “I am also concerned we do not know the expertise of the individuals who provided the ‘answers’ to the questions that are addressed in the report. I am sure that Dr. Wolfson, who indicated his reliance on ‘good science-based medicine,’ understands the importance of knowing which good scientists and good doctors he relied on to reach certain conclusions. “As I have said from the beginning, the state must protect every Floridians’ right to life, and in so doing, err on the side of life. As Governor, I will continue to do just that. Nothing in Dr. Wolfson’s report leads me to believe the stay should be lifted at this time, or that Mrs. Schiavo should be deprived of her right to live.” -Governor Jeb Bush http://www.myflorida.com/myflorida/governorsoffice/review_year/litems_report.html |
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Walter in FL
IP: 70.127.118.160 Sep 16th, 2007 - 10:01 AM |
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Janice I too was very impressed at Dr.Wolfson's efforts in the 30 day period. His report was very objective. The fact that his appointment was part of the unconstitutional actions of Jeb Bush and the Florida legislature nullifing his function was a missed chance for a compromize. If anyone could he with his objective had the best chance of a compromize. |
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